There have been many articles written on the papabili. The following is my own roundup of the papabili, with a link for each if you want to find more information. My personal favorites are italicized and on top.
Please note that it is very likely our next pope will not enter the conclave as a papabile. John Paul II himself never appeared on anyone's list (correction 4/14/2005: he appeared on one list, according to one of our readers)! As the old saying goes, "He who enters the conclave as pope, leaves it as a cardinal."
Update 4/14/2004: I have been informed by a reader that the correct plural of papabile is papabili, so I've corrected that everywhere except the title (I can't change the title, because that would change the URL).
Cláudio Hummes, Archbishop of São Paulo (Age 70) - Wikipedia
Miloslav Vlk, Archbishop of Prague (Age 72) - Wikipedia
Ivan Dias, Archbishop of Mumbai (Age 69) - Wikipedia
Francis Arinze, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacrament (Age 72) - Wikipedia
Geraldo Majella Agnelo, Archbishop of Salvador, Brazil (Age 71) - Wikipedia
Godfried Danneels, Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels (Age 72) - Wikipedia
Giovanni Battista Re, Cardinal Bishop, Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops (Age 71) - About.com
Dionigi Tettamanzi, Archbishop of Milan (Age 71) - Wikipedia
Oscar Andrés Rodríguez, Archbishop of Tegucigalpa, Honduras (Age 62) - Wikipedia
Christoph Schönborn, Archbishop of Vienna (Age 60) - Wikipedia
Angelo Scola, Patriarch of Venice (Age 63) - Wikipedia
Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson, Archbishop of Cape Coast (Age 56) - Wikipedia
Angelo Sodano, Cardinal Bishop, Vice-Dean of the College of Cardinals (Age 77) - Wikipedia
Alfonso López Trujillo, Cardinal Bishop, President of the Pontifical Council for the Family (Age 69) - Wikipedia
Norberto Rivera Carrera, Archbishop of Mexico City (Age 62) - Wikipedia
Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, Archbishop of Westminster (Age 72) - Wikipedia
Lubomyr Husar, Ukrainian Rite Major-Archbishop of Lviv (Age 72) - Wikipedia
Tarcisio Bertone, Archbishop of Genoa (Age 70) - Wikipedia
Dario Castrillón Hoyos, Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy (Age 75) - Wikipedia
Crescenzio Sepe, Prefect of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples (Age 61) - Interview @NCR
Walter Kasper, President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity (Age 72) - Wikipedia
Juan Luis Cipriani Thorne, Archbishop of Lima (Age 61) - Wikipedia
José da Cruz Policarpo, Patriarch of Lisbon (Age 69) - Wikipedia
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Archbishop of Buenos Aires (Age 68) - Outside the Beltway
33 comments:
I've really appreciated all the coverage of the Pope on your blog, but I'm not sure what to make of this extensive list, which includes some admittedly unlikely candidates but ignores Ratzinger, who has been widely mentioned as a possibility in recent days. He can't very well have been left off this list because of age, because Sodano (age 77) is there. An oversight, perhaps?
Hi,
Boney, you are absolutely correct. I'd like to further add that while the media, "analysts," "experts," and global political leaders can talk all they want about who the next Pope should be, we believe as Catholics that the decision takes place outside the realm of mere politics, or "what Americans (or insert your nationality here) want to see in the new Pope." Rather, the decision is a choice of the electors guided by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, it should not be surprising that the elected Popes of late were not included on the temporal "papabile" lists drawn up by those outside the conclaves (i.e. the media, etc.).
Boney-
Well, I am the original commenter on Ratzinger, and I still don't think excluding Ratzinger from this list makes sense. You dismiss U.S. media speculations, but in fact most of your list reads almost like a compilation of the different media lists I have seen out there, except without Ratzinger. Naturally I have heard the whole "Grand Elector" theory about Ratzinger too, but the whole thing about powerful "Grand Electors" in any voting setting is that it is not so uncommon for people who have that much influence to end up getting chosen themselves, even if they do not want it themselves and even if it was not widely expected before the voting started. I agree Ratzinger is certainly not the most likely candidate, and perhaps could justifiably be omitted from a shorter list of just several favorites, but the whole point is that your list is quite extensive, and includes some candidates who I think an objective person should acknowledge are more far-fetched than Ratzinger. Of course, it's your blog, and anyway it doesn't really matter in the end who you or I think may be elected, but I'm just saying I don't buy your explanation for excluding Ratzinger from your list. Thanks for responding to my comment.
About Husar: I don't beleive he has a US Passport. Though he was born in the US to Ukrainian parents, explicitely renoucnecd his US citizenship when he returned to the Ukraine. Still, he's a highly unlikely choice for the other reasons mentioned above. Also, I think it unlikely that JPII's successor will be from another former Soviet-bloc country.
If I were picking just on names alone, though, I think I'd have to go with Cardinal Sin! Yet another reason I am not a Cardinal.
Tettamanzi seems like he's been campaigning a bit too much since he was appointed to Milan. Plus, honestly, the "wee fat guy" reminds me too much of John XXIII -not a good thing in my book.
If the Papacy goes to an Italian again this time, let it be Scola or Ruini.
A fascinating 24. My list of 21 can be found http://www.jigsawlounge.co.uk/film/content/view/130/1/
I'm updating it several times every day.
We share nine candidates:
Arinze, Bergoglio, Castrillon H., Dias, Hummes, Husar, Rodriguez M., Scola and Tettamanzi.
The names highest on my list which don't appear on Boney's are:
DARMATMAADJA the Indonesian
NAPIER the South African
PHAM MINH MAN the Vietnamese
POLETTO the Piemontese
SANDOVAL INIGUEZ the Mexican
TURCOTTE the Quebecois
ZEN the Chinese.
Of which, ZEN is clearly the most interesting as he isn't an elector. Any comments?
Clearly the one that would be best to have for the world is Danneels. He is extremely smart and forward thinking. He speaks 6 languages fluently and is a good diplomat.
He has been the only one openly 'criticising' respectfully some Vatican viewpoints :
- He wants more collegiality
- Thinks condoms should be used within a married couple where one has aids and they cannot withstand the temptation
- Feels a pope should be able to stand down before dying when he becomes too old to properly execute the function
He deserves to be it because he has been the only one that has an outspoken vision that is universally acceptable and modern. Moreover cardinals that have shown no vision clearly lack the necessary leadership.
The next Pope has to look good on the media and exude warmth and holiness as well as having a powerful intellect. John Paul II transformed the way the world looks at the pope. If his successor has none of his charm and charisma he will not be able to maintain the attention of the fickle media which now drives so much world opinion. John Paul II had a global appeal for young and old, rich and poor. When he appeared, people looked and listened. While we have to accept that kind of magnetism does not come in a bottle, the new man at least has to have more than a trace of this magic.
After more than of a quarter of a century with an extraordinary human being at the helm of the ship the church must build on his legacy. It cannot go back to having an inward looking Pontiff buried in the Vatican. If there is no man of the required stature in the current College of Cardinals then a transitional Pope would surely be the best alternative.
In this context Ratzinger must be a leading contender. He has a towering intellect and, with his distinctive mass of silvery hair, his appearance has a certain cuteness factor. He photographs well and is probably the most recognisable of the Cardinals. His emotion while delivering the funeral homily showed him to be far more human than he is sometimes portrayed. As a close collaborator of JP II he could be considered the keeper of his legacy.
He would have to win the media and the people over with a softer, more user-friendly image. He is reputed to have a gentle charm. With a little practice he might even start kissing babies. Winning over the liberals would be a battle too far, but liberals had little time for Wojtyla.
Ratzinger is strong but would not be good for the church. He would be too centralised and has to my knowledge had little involvement in interreligious relations. Everybody agrees on the challenges ahead :
- Poverty and aids in Africa
- Challenging alternative religions in Latin America
- Secularisation in Europe
- Credibility of church leaders in the US
- Role of the women in the church
All of these will need to be embodied by 1 person. This is very unlikely.
If one checks the achievements of the various 'candidates', then I think you will come to a pretty short list of people :
- The one from Honduras or Brasil
- The one from Austria or Belgium
- One of the two most quoted Italians
- The Indian cardinal
Tettamanzi a neat looking pope? You have got to be kidding! The world has moved on since the time of John XXIII. People work out now and TV makes a guy look 40 lbs heavier than he is. Short, bald and fat will not cut it, especially for someone following the athletic alpha male which was John Paul II. It’s true he was physically diminished by Parkinson’s as he aged, but the way most people remember him is the way he was at his zenith, and he never lost that powerful aura. The Papacy is not a beauty parade, but I agree with some of the comments above - appearance can’t be ignored in such a visual age.
Those who regard Hummes as a Benedictine will be shocked to hear that he is actually a Franciscan. It will be recalled that Liberation Theology in South America in the 70's and 80's was much favored by Franciscans. This may be guilt by association, but Cardinals sometimes do things for odd reasons.
Also, Bergoglio of Buenos Aires, sometimes touted by 'progressives' is a Jesuit, and no Jesuit has reached the papal throne in 450 years.
A post made by BdeB123 on 4/15/2005 4:52 PM was deleted due to a formatting issue. I have reformatted the post and the entire original unedited post is below. I apologize for any inconvenience. - Jimbo.
BdeB123 said...
Isn't it rather extreme to claim Ratzinger would be "bad for the church?" Is the implication that he would not tackle the essential issues, or is it that he would not approach them a way acceptable to some groups? Ratzinger seems to get a lot of unjustified negativity. He was blamed for initiating the ban on Cardinals talking to the press. It transpires that this was not true – on the contrary, he upheld the right of individuals to speak out. http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/
update/conclave/pt041205a.htm
For those who favor taking the church in a totally different direction from the course set by JP II, the most suitable candidate would appear to be the one most likely to do this. JP II clearly did not please everyone, but before he blazed onto the scene only practising Catholics and Vaticanistas paid any attention to what the Pope said or did. Paul VI and Humanae Vitae was a brief exception, coming as it did at the height of the sexual revolution and the wide availability of the contraceptive pill.
The successor to JP II must of course focus on essential issues, but for maximum impact he must also be a universal pastor with some telegenic charisma. This is not a gift with which many of the candidates seem to be over endowed. In an age of global mass media, the power of the image is paramount. Recall the moment at the end of Ratzinger’s homily when he raised his arm to point at the empty window of the Apostolic Palace. It was a simple but profoundly eloquent gesture and the huge crowd responded. He has learned something about communication from his years at the side of Karol Wojtyla.
Can anyone here comment knowledgeably on the Italian news reports that some 40-50 cardinal electors are behind Ratzinger?
Please could you all stop using the word papabile as a plural adjective? The correct plural form is papabili. I wish your knowledge of Italian grammar was as extensive as your insights as to whom the Holy Spirit will choose to lead His church!
I'm all for Cardinal Danneels as well. After all, he's done such a bang-up job in the Netherlands. The Faith is making such a dramatic comeback, he should be allowed to spread that magic throughout the world. Mass attendence is booming, conversions are through the roof...
Oh wait...nevermind.
I find Danneels very appealing. But his past health problems (heart) and his more liberal view on condoms and homosexuality may be too much of a sea change for the Church.
I feel the new pope will be between 60 and 70 years old. I also reckon that Martini and Ratzinger are not ´´real´´ candidates. Other people will emerge.
I think José da Cruz Policarpo will be pope. For these reasons, 1)the media don't have him on their lists. 2) His connections to Fatima, with his interest in inter-faith dialogue.
3) He speaks Portuguese, so would make a good bridge between Europe and Latin America.
4) He is moderate.
5) He is a prolific writer and a formidable intellectual.
6) St Malachy predicts ""Gloria Olivae" - He was a dean of a seminary in Olivais, close to Fatima, and so he may be influential in increasing vocations.
I would say that based on sheer numbers - next pope will still be european. I doubt it that he will be italian or that anyone will favour eastern european pope (as they said for JPII "he worked hard and lived long"). I do not think that new pope will come from german zone of influence (this goes for Ratzinger as well which seems like a very nice person, his downside is his position with JPII), reason for this is because germans are considered cold, administrative and conservative people and new pope will likely be more open to new ideas. So, what remains is spanish or portugeese pope and I think that it is highly likely; "latin" blood can introduce more passion into church and will surely bring more open views about critical subjects. This pope could also be considered "compatible" with latin america and africa (because of shared history). Also, do not forget that church in europe is in crisis and while I agree that all attention should be given to new centers of church growth (africa and america), new energy should be introduced in old and decadent europe.
What about the Nicaraguan Cardinal ?
It's going to be Tettamanzi as a "third way" between Ratzinger on one side and the myriad "liberals," "moderates," and reformers" -- whatever you want to call them -- on the other. It seems increasingly unlikely that Ratzinger will secure the super-majority needed for victory. For my reasoning, see:
www.the-reaction.blogspot.com
SODANO
Lustiger.
Not including Ratzinger on the list looks brilliant now...
"the cardinals have elected me, a simple, humble worker in God's vineyard. I am consoled by the fact that the Lord knows how to work and how to act, even with insufficient tools"
Will there be much pruning of the vines?
Interesting choice in Ratzinger. As an 18 yr old in Germany, ww2, he failed most of the physical challenges of basic training, was most certainly an unwilling member of the Hitler Youth, and ended up a German army deserter, finding refuge from the horrors of war in the seminary. At least from his perspective, in the words of the Knight Templar from Indiana Jones III " You chose well ". He is a reminder of the past, right here in the advanced year of 2005.
At his age, he can only be seen as a temporary Pope, but he seems excited to have attained the highest position in his chosen profession. Good luck to him!
Aren't all of the Popes temporary? Heck, aren't we all temporary? All joking aside, don't assume that a 78-year-old Pope will not live long. It is certainly possible that his Papacy will be brief, but it's also possible that he could live another 10, 15, 20 years or so. Who knows?
I think Ratzinger is very intelligent and I heard he is very nice and sweet even if he doens't seem to be but he is too old .I think they should have continued the way they went when electing JPII .My favourite was Schonborn 'coz he has some of the charisma of JPII and he has most of the qualities : looks better than the others and has a kind smile (the look ,charisma factor),he seems to be opened and kind to people(the closeness factor),he is intelligent and speaks several languages and his english is beautiful(the smarts factor),he is more liberal and opened to new things(the liberal factor)and he is younger and healthy(the age factor).Also I think Maradiaga of Honduras would have been good especially for the young people.
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